Yacoon Root Max
You know and that person after often results in the lower g_p_a_ which has some implications for how we think through actinic advising and what we kill them that they were setting them up for disappointment but they should know that we know that this is going to be a challenging time I think that's a pretty things you know that happen with transferred transfer students don't think they need orienting I’ll tell you there's some universities now that are requiring transfer students to come to orientation does success rates of those students r_u_c_ out requiring alternatives and the way you would send and of course is you say you don't already have a personal you don't forward patient you called right advising and registration you believe it warranty the stuff in there probably a pretty much all they need it most of it you can put online and then go through it before they show up but they can't get into the classes they need and want unless they show up and begin advising and they get the courses the campuses better prepared staff those courses and students we get we've been so mealy mouth about this rule to require it then come home or someplace else in the fact of the matter is they want because they want what you got and if you do it well and the buzz is up the with we've seen it happening and the results are really ... we've got to do it well.